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jack kennedy. he was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments but hardly game changers. presidential debates can impact vice-presidential debate like this one between biden and all of ryan. they could be different. >> you need to be seeing that they are ready. that there will be ready in a national crisis to be able to step into the oval office and to take a rain of the presidency. beyond that, once they are and that they could start seek touching moments it is really changing the debates. >> the strategic is saying that the first rule is to do no harm a. >> in terms of senses to not to break ground this is not an audition. this is only 2012. >> i do not like a damn thing about it. >> joe biden committed to 20 different debate saying that the contact is never easy. >> i have mostly been doing is quite frankly studying up on ryan's positions on his issues. and romney has embraced from everything that i have seen. i do not want to see that everything is completely accurate. >> what do they think of strength. >> for paul brien it is his ability to
're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the host of msnbc's rachel maddow show. coffee is on me. going s debate, everybody said the goal of joe biden was to steady the ship, calm the nerves on the democratic side. did he do that? >> absolutely. democrats are psyched joe biden had a great night. you said at the top there was no clear winner and that may be, but it was important for the democrats that paul ryan not be the clear winner. most democrats, i don't know about independents, but most democrats think joe biden won. >> i think there's no winner because of joe biden's style, his demeanor. if we learned anything,
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